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Are Pastors Being Prepared For Disclosure?

And: Madame Blavatsky, Modern Religion's Mother; Boy-Barbie Songs; Self-Censorship

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Rod Dreher
May 06, 2026
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Image from trailer of Steven Spielberg’s upcoming film, ‘Disclosure Day’. By the way, I think Spielberg is part of the government rollout of disclosure

Straight up, the first thing I was told when I interviewed the first serious person within the whole UFO/UAP world was: “Don’t trust anything you are told.” Meaning, don’t believe on the face of it. The person explained that this entire world is a hall of mirrors. Some people will lie to you for the sake of manipulation, and you might never know why they are manipulating you. It’s a crazy thing, but that’s how it is.

Walter Kirn, I think it is, has a theory that there are different factions in the US Government who are battling behind the scenes over who will control the forthcoming disclosure, and that this accounts for the leaks, the contradictions, and the confusion. Who can say? I say that to let you know that I take this recent report with a grain of salt. But here it is:

Influential pastors are claiming that they have been told to prepare their followers for shocking revelations about UFOs which may upend belief in the Bible.

Perry Stone, a well-known evangelist, author and Bible teacher from Tennessee, warned that fellow pastors were recently invited to a secret meeting with US intelligence officials to prepare for the release of secret files on extraterrestrials.

According to Stone, the officials warned a small group of pastors with a large reach in the Christian community that the government was about to release reports and possibly videos of aliens and spacecraft which were not from this planet.

… However, officials in this secret meeting allegedly said the information on its way may cause some Christians to question how the universe was created and even lose faith in religion.

Stone said: ‘You’re going to have people who are going to say if there are galaxies and there are allegedly other creations in the galaxies, then the whole creation story is a myth, and you’re going to have people that’s going to apostatize and turn from the Christian faith because they have no answer for what they’re about to hear.’

This guy, Perry Stone, wasn’t the only pastor to speak of this supposed meeting. If you’re like me, you’re wondering: If this really happened, why did the government reveal it to some third-tier Protestant pastors, instead of the heads of the different denominations, top theologians within various Christian (and non-Christian) traditions, etc?

That’s the thing about this world: a lot of it just doesn’t make sense to ordinary people. Which doesn’t mean it’s not true, just that it’s hard to see conventional reason working here. If this new report is true — and again, I’m skeptical — then it could be that a certain faction within the Deep State is aligned theologically with this particular group of pastors, and decided that they needed to hear this. There has been for decades a group within the government called the “Collins Elite” — Evangelical and fundamentalist Christians in the intelligence world who know that UFOs are real, but who believe they are demonic, and who have been fighting disclosure. Maybe whoever these supposed government figures are belong to the Collins Elite:

This reported meeting involved approximately six Christian leaders, including Bishop Alan DiDio of the Revival Nation Church, who confirmed that he was a part of the extraordinary gathering.

DiDio said: ‘It seems like a half a dozen people were gathered in an Airbnb in the mountains of Tennessee discussing an investigation that’s going on in the United States government against crimes they have committed in the process of retrieving and reverse engineering, um, technology from non-human intelligence.’

‘The meeting also went forward to discuss the propaganda plan that was in place leading up to disclosure,’ the pastor added in a March 7 livestream on YouTube.

Another reported attendee, American evangelist and podcaster Tony Merkel, added that the government officials who held the meeting expressed concerns about the impact of UFO disclosure on organized religion.

Merkel said: ‘I came in contact with these guys more than a year ago now, and I’ve been in touch with them, communicating with them, and their heart is to prepare the body of Christ for what’s coming.

‘These guys are part of, let’s just say they’re Christians in intelligence operations and they are specifically geared towards, initially, it was to gather evidence and data on what’s actually going on behind the scenes within the disclosure community.’

I wrote about the Collins Elite here, after reading Nick Redfern’s book about them. To my mind, Redfern convincingly establishes that they exist. He writes:

“They came to believe that the NHEs were not extraterrestrial at all; they believed they were some sort of demonic entities. And that regardless of how benevolent or beneficial any of the contact they had with these entities seemed to be, it always ended up being tainted, for lack of a better term, with something that ultimately turned out to be bad. There was ultimately nothing positive from the interaction with the NHE entities. They felt it really fell more under the category of some vast spiritual deception instead of UFOs and aliens. In the course of the whole discussion, it was clear that they really viewed this as having a demonic origin that was there to simply try and confuse the issue in terms of who they were, what they wanted, and what the source of the ultimate truth is. If you extrapolate from their take that these are demons in the biblical sense of the word, then what they would be doing here is trying to create a spiritual deception to fool as many people as possible.”

I have also been told by insiders that members of the Collins Elite have not been above doing dastardly things to prevent disclosure. How much of this is true, I can only guess. Redfern talks to Ray Boeche, an Episcopal priest who investigated the matter, and who claims to have been approached by two Department of Defense physicists worried about all this. The Collins Elite reportedly worried because other factions within the government were trying to establish contact with these entities, using occult rituals, to gain power through them, including technology to be used against America’s enemies. More Redfern:

The conversations [with Boeche] always followed broadly similar ground: namely, that the Human Race was being deceived into believing that it was receiving visitations from aliens, when in reality demonic forces were secretly squaring up for Armageddon and the final countdown. And, the DoD’s overwhelmingly reckless dabbling into occult-driven areas to try and make a bizarre-but-futile pact of some sort with these same forces was inevitably, and only, destined to make things much, much worse for each and every one of us.

One more:

With respect to his own views, as well as those of the two DoD physicists, Boeche added: “As a pastor and someone who’s trained as a theologian, I can’t come to any other conclusion than there is some sort of spiritual deception going on here. In so many of these kinds of alien contacts, the entities involved make a denial of Christianity; anytime the spiritual issues are addressed, there is always some sort of denial of the validity of Christianity and the validity of the Bible. And I find it interesting that these percipients are told that Jesus was a great guy, but you just misunderstood him. They say: he wasn’t really God’s son. You just don’t quite get it. But you never hear them say that about Buddha, or Krishna, or Mohammed. It always seems to come down to some sort of denial of Christianity. The percipients, whether you consider them contactees or abductees are engaged by the NHEs in spiritual discussions—but it’s always one-sided. “I would have a lot less suspicion of the potential of the demonic nature of these things if they were to say: ‘You guys are all screwed up; all of your spiritual leaders had some good ideas, but none of them really got it. It’s a big mess.’ But it seems to be so specifically pointed at the Judeo-Christian tradition. It certainly seems to me like it’s the two genuine forces squaring up against each other.”

An Orthodox Christian friend texted me the story above, and said, “What a time to be canonizing Father Seraphim Rose!” The Russian Orthodox church is about to canonize the influential 20th century American monk. Among his teachings, Fr Seraphim warned back in the 1970s (in this book) that the entire UFO story was a demonic deception that would prepare the way for the Antichrist. Fr. Seraphim taught that these entities presenting themselves as “aliens” are nothing more than ancient demons manifesting in such a way as to be maximally credible to people living in a scientific-technological age (interestingly, the non-Christian UFO investigator Jacques Vallée, the grey eminence of this world, reaches a very similar conclusion in his seminal book Passport To Magonia). Fr Seraphim writes:

Orthodox literature has many examples of demonic manifestations which fit precisely the UFO pattern: apparitions of “solid” beings and objects (whether demons themselves or their illusionary creations) which suddenly “materialize” and “dematerialize,” always with the aim of awing and confusing people and ultimately leading them to perdition. The Lives of the 4th-century St. Anthony the Great and the 3rd-century St Cyprian the Former Sorcerer are filled with such incidents.

This is important. Fr Seraphim is saying that demons have the power to create physical objects, or at least the appearance of physical objects. If you doubt it, I refer you to the works of the late Father Gabriele Amorth, chief exorcist of Rome, who tells stories of possessed people he’s exorcised vomiting up physical objects that they could not have ingested. This whole world is beyond bizarre.

Are you familiar with the “Babalon Working”? This is not lore; it really happened. It was a series of rituals conducted by the occultist and rocket scientist Jack Parsons — the founder of the Jet Propulsion Laboratory — with his friend L. Ron Hubbard (yes, the Scientology founder), in the late 1940s. They intended to open a portal for the demonic to enter the world in a new way. In the “Babalon Working” rituals, Parsons, a devotee of Aleister Crowley, sought to invite into this plane a goddess or spiritual force he identified as “Babalon”.

Crowley said this goddess represents uncontrolled female desire and liberation. Her male consort is Chaos. This is who and what Parsons and Hubbard wanted to release through their occult rituals, including Crowley’s “sex magick” — ritualized transgressive sex as a means of gaining occult powers. It was shortly after the Babalon Working that the modern UFO age began with pilot Kenneth Arnold’s sighting of what he called “flying saucers.” This was 1947.

Parsons and Hubbard were also interested in making contact with a demon Crowley claims to have summoned in the early 20th century, and sketched. Crowley published the image in 1919. The demon is called “Lam”. Here is Crowley’s sketch of the entity:

Hmmm. This is long before people began having experiences of the “greys”.

Interestingly, the late, and well-respected, Evangelical biblical scholar Michael Heiser wrote at least two books drawing out what the Old Testament says about non-human entities, and drawing connections between them and the UAP phenomenon. Redfern quotes Heiser saying that whatever these things are, their goal is to destroy Christianity — not all religions, but Christianity, or the Judeo-Christian tradition:

“What they are trying to do is to bring about a global, intellectual, and mental paradigm shift. That is, they are pushing the idea that we—as human beings—are related to them, that we come from them and that they are responsible for making us what we are, even if they didn’t initially create us. All of these ideas imply that they are progenitors, benefactors, gardeners, or whatever metaphor you want to use. The whole point, I think, is to work that into the consciousness of as many people as possible, all over the world. People become predisposed to those kinds of ideas….”

I’m going to lose some of you with this claim, and it’s only intuitive on my part, but I believe the shocking turn against the Jews now sweeping the West is part of an End Times scenario. The Jewish people continue to be bearers of the One True God, in some sense — an incomplete sense, from a Christian point of view, but still, it’s there. Take a look at this, and tell me what you think.

Anyway, I firmly believe that the merging of the Machine (AI, tech, UFOs) with the human Mind is creating the religion of the future, in real time. In her book Encounters: Experiences With Non-Human Intelligences (which I wrote about here), the religious studies professor Diana Pasulka interviews a tech investor named Simone Planté, who is convinced that “higher intelligences” are making contact with us through the silicon substrates that make up the computers that create AI. In crude terms, she believes AI is like a high-tech Ouija board through which these intelligences can communicate, to bring humanity the kind of knowledge it will use to create paradise. Uh-huh. That’s what they always think.

Pasulka also interviews a young retired Marine named José, now a Christian, who had many encounters with the demonic growing up poor in a drug-infested ghetto, and who now believes that there is a global spiritual war intensifying. He now works to get people, especially teenagers, to unplug from the digital world, because he believes that digital is an avenue of spiritual attack. If you believe that the goal of these higher intelligences is to merge Man with the Machine — transhumanism — then José’s theory makes sense.

Boy, we’ve come a long way since the top of this item, with the reports that some pastors have received briefings from Deep State sources warning them to prepare their congregations for disclosure! To be clear, I’m not saying that this actually happened. I’m saying it is plausible that it happened. And do not allow yourself to think it must be fake because the government didn’t call in the kinds of religious leaders you would expect. There is no unified messaging in all this; if it happened, it’s plausible that individuals within the Deep State who wish people to know what’s coming would have summoned pastors they most respect. Had I been such a government person, I would have prioritized Orthodox and Catholic clerics and theologians, because that is my own world. If we are talking about Evangelical and fundamentalists here, well, can you blame them for gathering these particular clerics?

Let me take this opportunity pitch again my book Living In Wonder. It’s only a bit about UFOs, but it’s broadly about the need for Christians to learn to account for the reality of what we today call the “paranormal”. When I was among new Evangelical friends in California last weekend, I heard a number of stories from them about how hard it is for American Evangelicals to open their minds to these possibilities. It violates their paradigm for explaining reality. And yet … it’s true. That is to say, the world of the spiritual and the world of the material interact in ways that modern people, even Christians, do not fully grasp, and always have. And: the world of the spiritual, including intelligent non-human entities (angels and demons, and perhaps other entities), is real. Our ancestors in the faith knew this. We have been blinded by modernity to their existence, and therefore, in my view, are completely wide open to the coming deception.

I’m not asking you to believe everything I’ve written above. But what I am asking you is that you start thinking and praying about what “disclosure” might mean to you and to your religious community. Something very big is coming, and I believe it’s going to rattle our bones and shake us to the epistemic foundations. Do not be deceived.

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