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Ficus's avatar

Former Episcopalian here (now Orthodox). I loved being Episcopalian. High liturgy, beautiful music, welcoming to all, and women and gay people could be priests. I loved the woke stuff, I thought it was probably how God wanted it...after all, He doesn't love me any less because I'm female. I also was not really catchetized.

In the summer of 2020 my church was totally shut, doing Livestream services on Facebook live. My priest put on his clerical collar and marched in our city's BLM march, then posted pictures of himself on social media at the march. My friends from church were posting about #ACAB, all cops are bad, racist etc. Meanwhile my husband the cop was getting spit on at work, threatened by young men hanging out of car windows, and people came and shot bullets into the outside of one of the stations. Nobody ever called to ask how he was doing.

In 2021, my church friends were posting about how all people who don't wear masks want the elderly to die. People who ask questions about injections are hysterical anti-vaxxers and deserve to lose their jobs and worse. We had cheeky cute signs around the church saying God wants you to "sanitize thy hands". People could come back 15 people at a time and sit 20ft apart masked. My priest preached a sermon comparing George Floyd to Jesus, saying "we killed him, too".

I love my Episcopalian friends, and I love that priest and the rest of the clergy at our old parish. But those years were revelatory for me. They helped me see the temptation of self righteousness and pride, and how I was embodying those, and what it feels like to be on the receiving end of that kind of faux-compassionate hatred. Hatred in the name of "love". It was utterly chilling. I could not be happier to be Orthodox. I have a prayer rule and more discipline. There is a focus on humility, sin and salvation - things that were never emphasized at my Episcopal church. The priest is not afraid to talk about evil and the reality of spiritual war. I was well catchetized. It feels like a church that can help us endure the hard times ahead.

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Oh Susanna's avatar

Andrew Sullivan is fooling himself. He wanted to overturn *just this much* of truth and normality, just enough to get what *he* wanted. Thus he and his fellow activists broke down the gates and are now complaining about the hordes who followed them wanting to overturn more of truth and reality so they can get what *they* want. Either you accept that sexual desire and behaviour must be constrained and directed toward what is good and true, or you throw down all boundaries and accept everything. Really, those are pretty much the only two choices.

And for anyone complaining, it didn't start with the homosexuals, it started with heterosexual "free love", no-fault divorce, etc. 100%.

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