I can respect that, as long as you understand other Christians may make similar choices on other issues other than abortion. IF you are going to insist that everybody else needs to accept things like the USA covertly supporting nun raping Sunni militias as the price of the rights of the unborn, then we have a problem.
I can respect that, as long as you understand other Christians may make similar choices on other issues other than abortion. IF you are going to insist that everybody else needs to accept things like the USA covertly supporting nun raping Sunni militias as the price of the rights of the unborn, then we have a problem.
That wasn't what I was saying at that moment, but I agree with you.
What I was saying is that I wouldn't support a candidate that regards Christian communities overseas as acceptable collateral damage in the pursuit of expanding American influence, which by the time we got around to Syria it was clear that both parties were okay with.
"Christian communities overseas as acceptable collateral damage in the pursuit of expanding American influence"
That's one of the things I feel most strongly about. I wish Candace Owens hadn't made herself look an idiot by toying with flat-earth theories and a monster with her borderline Holocaust denial, as I thought she was on the right track with her advocacy of "Christianity First" politics.
By "racist", I think you mean "anti-white"? I don't think that's true.
She might be antisemitic, which is rather a different issue. Her edging towards Holocaust denial might not be that, and might be like her toying with flat-earth theory - just click-bait. It might also be the feeling that, having rejected some social orthodoxies and accepted "truths", she's not sure where to stop. I feel a bit like that myself, although I don't go where she's gone.
Her looking anti-white is because she is anti-patriotic. She believes that foreign policy should favour Christians, and their nationality, race and location are irrelevant. Once you accept that, her positions make sense. She is anti-China, anti-Israel, and anti-Islam, but pro-Russia, and pro-black Africa. She is indifferent to democracy.
I tend to agree with her about these points. Since 1989, the USA has consistently supported whoever is more likely to persecute Christians, so I sometimes wonder whether it or Israel, or both, are forerunners of the Antichrist. However, I wouldn't go out on limbs the way she does.
Candace Owens is on what, her third kid with a white man? I mean, you said you know who her husband is but think a bit about what that actually implies and calling her racist just does not pass the logic test. That would be one weird racist to put it mildly.
Now, if by racist you mean specifically anti-semitic, you might have a point. But then discourse on this point is so rarefied itтАЩs very easy to step on a landmine. IтАЩve been called an anti-semite for posting what just yesterday was boilerplate Catholic teaching re - who had Jesus killed (the Jews under the Pharisees), what is Israel (the Church), who are the people of God (Christians), and the differences between a worldview that knows God is risen and one that does not (insurmountable). That said thatтАЩs a far cry from flirting with Hamas supporters, and I canтАЩt think of any Christian purpose that would justify giving as much oxygen to Muslims as she does. However I suspect all this comes less from some ontological hatred of Jews and more from her public feud with Ben Shapiro and the Daily Wire.
I can respect that, as long as you understand other Christians may make similar choices on other issues other than abortion. IF you are going to insist that everybody else needs to accept things like the USA covertly supporting nun raping Sunni militias as the price of the rights of the unborn, then we have a problem.
What do you need clarified?
That wasn't what I was saying at that moment, but I agree with you.
What I was saying is that I wouldn't support a candidate that regards Christian communities overseas as acceptable collateral damage in the pursuit of expanding American influence, which by the time we got around to Syria it was clear that both parties were okay with.
No worries, appreciate it when people ask for clarification rahter than jsut assume. :)
I wish our politicians could demonstrate the civility you two (P.B. and Andrew) have shown in honest debate.
"Christian communities overseas as acceptable collateral damage in the pursuit of expanding American influence"
That's one of the things I feel most strongly about. I wish Candace Owens hadn't made herself look an idiot by toying with flat-earth theories and a monster with her borderline Holocaust denial, as I thought she was on the right track with her advocacy of "Christianity First" politics.
By "racist", I think you mean "anti-white"? I don't think that's true.
She might be antisemitic, which is rather a different issue. Her edging towards Holocaust denial might not be that, and might be like her toying with flat-earth theory - just click-bait. It might also be the feeling that, having rejected some social orthodoxies and accepted "truths", she's not sure where to stop. I feel a bit like that myself, although I don't go where she's gone.
Her looking anti-white is because she is anti-patriotic. She believes that foreign policy should favour Christians, and their nationality, race and location are irrelevant. Once you accept that, her positions make sense. She is anti-China, anti-Israel, and anti-Islam, but pro-Russia, and pro-black Africa. She is indifferent to democracy.
I tend to agree with her about these points. Since 1989, the USA has consistently supported whoever is more likely to persecute Christians, so I sometimes wonder whether it or Israel, or both, are forerunners of the Antichrist. However, I wouldn't go out on limbs the way she does.
OK. Fair enough.
Candace Owens is on what, her third kid with a white man? I mean, you said you know who her husband is but think a bit about what that actually implies and calling her racist just does not pass the logic test. That would be one weird racist to put it mildly.
Now, if by racist you mean specifically anti-semitic, you might have a point. But then discourse on this point is so rarefied itтАЩs very easy to step on a landmine. IтАЩve been called an anti-semite for posting what just yesterday was boilerplate Catholic teaching re - who had Jesus killed (the Jews under the Pharisees), what is Israel (the Church), who are the people of God (Christians), and the differences between a worldview that knows God is risen and one that does not (insurmountable). That said thatтАЩs a far cry from flirting with Hamas supporters, and I canтАЩt think of any Christian purpose that would justify giving as much oxygen to Muslims as she does. However I suspect all this comes less from some ontological hatred of Jews and more from her public feud with Ben Shapiro and the Daily Wire.